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4:41 am
August 25, 2009
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Danberg
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Okay, ladies and gentlemen. Here is what we have so far:
- Artist(s) must have been listed as "active" 20 years prior to year of eligibility (currently 1989)
- Artist(s) nominated must be considered independent, meaning a major portion of their years active
would need to be on an independent label
- Artist(s) can be from any genre
I would also like to implement a minimum number of years listed as active, but I can't decide what is a fair amount of time. 5? 10? 7?
Also, let me know if anything else should be changed or added. Once we have a consensus we can start the nominations.
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10:45 am
August 25, 2009
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danhauk
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That sounds good to me. I think they only really need to be "active" for 5 years (i.e. 5 years as a band?) because some bands have released lots of stuff in only 5 years. So I think we can start taking nominations.
Also, do you guys think it would be better if we ultimately chose who is inducted, or should we go by viewer votes (assuming we can get enough votes)?
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2:24 pm
August 25, 2009
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briancraig
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i don't think a minimum number of years is necessary. if a group made such a monumental impact on the musical landscape and influenced a number of other bands, yet only existed for a short period of time, shouldn't their accomplishments be the important part? what does longevity have to do with anything?
prime example: the sex pistols only existed for two years, yet they unquestionably changed the face of music forever. would they not be nominated because they didn't make the five year cut-off?
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2:54 pm
August 25, 2009
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Danberg
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The original Sex Pistols were active from 75 to 78, but there have been several incarnations since then. In fact, I'm about 95% sure there is a currently active version of The Sex Pistols.
Take this next part with a grain of salt: I am in an extreme minority that think they did very little for music. I will admit that culturally they had some impact, but musically they did nothing for the "Brit Punk" landscape that wasn't also accomplished by The Clash or The 4-Skins or The Buzzcocks. They just happened to be bigger dicks about it and were more "controversial".
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9:30 am
August 26, 2009
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danhauk
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I nominate the following. Feel free to discuss why or why these shouldn't be included.
The Ramones
Depeche Mode
The Stooges
Joy Division
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9:53 pm
August 26, 2009
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briancraig
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for what it's worth, DB, i'm right there with you on the sex pistols, but you get the point i'm making. yes, clash all the way, but no need for a minimum.
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5:40 pm
August 27, 2009
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Danberg
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Post edited 7:45 pm – August 27, 2009 by Danberg
I hereby nominate the following:
- The Specials
- The Violent Femmes
- Pantera (on behalf of Kevin Weber)
- Black Flag
- Bad Religion
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9:11 am
August 28, 2009
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Rabidbadger
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Post edited 11:12 am – August 28, 2009 by Rabidbadger
What’s the official definition of an Independent label? I never paid attention to who slapped the songs on vinyl and sent them to stores, i just bought music I liked. And so many labels that seemed independent were actually created or bought out by major labels. And reprints of once independent albums were later re-released on major labels. And some bands put their first album that went nowhere out independently, then were scooped up by the majors (Nirvana). And the last half of the Beatles career was on an “independent" label (Apple). It’s all a gray area.
Hmm, that said, here are a few bands that most probably fit.
PIL
Suicidal Tendencies
Camper Van Beethoven
King Missile (maybe not, but I enjoy them, haha)
The Knack. (JUST KIDDING)
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9:41 pm
August 28, 2009
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danhauk
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True about the independent label thing. I'm not really sure what constitutes an independent label either. Though for the most part I think as long as they're relatively underground or "alternative" to the mainstream they should be allowed. Obviously not the ones that will most likely make the real Hall of Fame, such as the aforementioned Nirvana.
So I would suggest just keep making nominations and if we have to, we'll do the research to find out about labels, etc. We'll leave the nominations open for a few weeks, then maybe some voting?
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12:29 am
August 29, 2009
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Danberg
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What I meant by "independent label" is not one of the big 4 (Universal, Sony, Warner, and Virgin/EMI) and subsidiaries thereof… this is up for discussion, of course, and can be voted down, but I will take it upon myself to do the footwork for any nominees, verifying what labels they were on and for how long. Though there are a couple exceptions, it pretty much seems like a given that if someone is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, that they were on a major label. Once we have a big enough pool of nominees, we can agree on limitations.
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10:03 pm
December 18, 2009
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Rabidbadger
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For what it's worth, the official List is out… ABBA! ???
ABBA, Genesis, Jimmy Cliff, The Hollies and The Stooges will be inducted as performers at the 2010 Induction Ceremony. Also being inducted as individual recipients of the Ahmet Ertegun Award will be David Geffen and songwriters Barry Mann, Cynthia Weil, Elle Greenwich, Jeff Barry, Jesse Stone, Mort Shuman and Otis Blackwell.
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11:14 am
December 21, 2009
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briancraig
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there was a lot of discussion on another message board about whether or not KISS should be inducted. i'd put KISS in the same boat with ABBA in that they're both kinda shitty pop groups that people really love for s.
someone made (what i thought was) a really good point when he said that it's the Rock & Roll Hall of FAME, and not the Rock & Roll Hall of Really Good Bands. it was then and there that i decided that, on the basis of that argument alone, they both probably deserve to be there and that i also don't really give a shit about the R&RHoF.
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